As I say in the intro to this week's show, I thought it would be a good idea to record my conversation with Erik Nygaard, the co-founder of Limejump, in a busy cafe, next to a busy road, in the busiest city in the world.
As a result, the recording quality isn't the best, but the quality of guest more than makes up for that fact.
There seem to be lots of companies like Limejump cropping up on the edge of the energy market, using clever data analysis tools to solve the energy supply-demand conundrum. Limejump's focus on helping renewable energy generators get paid for the clean energy they produce is already gaining traction, with a roster of clients jumping on board.
It makes for a compelling story.
Here's some pics of Erik with his co-founder Ning Zhang and a graphic of the virtual power plant concept.